Comments on: With Osipov on sin http://www.3waystolive.com/2008/04/with-osipov-on-sin.html Which is your way? Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:27:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: With Osipov on sin - my response | Three ways to live http://www.3waystolive.com/2008/04/with-osipov-on-sin.html#comment-128 With Osipov on sin - my response | Three ways to live Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:23:05 +0000 http://www.3waystolive.com/?p=154#comment-128 [...] my previous post I outlined Eastern Orthodox view of sin, represented by Moscow Theological Seminary professor [...] […] my previous post I outlined Eastern Orthodox view of sin, represented by Moscow Theological Seminary professor […]

]]> By: Edward Sim http://www.3waystolive.com/2008/04/with-osipov-on-sin.html#comment-125 Edward Sim Wed, 23 Apr 2008 02:03:38 +0000 http://www.3waystolive.com/?p=154#comment-125 Hi, Personal sin and inherited sin seems all right (not much objection there). It would seem that imputation of sin and imputation of righteousness would become a major ground of difference between Protestantism and Eastern Orthodoxy. I think that if I am not mistaken, the Protestant reformed teaching on original sin is not that we are actually guilty of Adam's sin but rather the guilt and sin of Adam is imputed upon the entire human race i.e. counted as effective against the entire human race. (To use a computer science lingo, it's more of a logical transfer rather than a physical one. :) ) Furthermore, I am unhappy about the avoidance of God's wrath as a great problem of sin. It is clear that while Adam and Eve hid from God in the garden of Eden (thus suggesting an inward alienation from God due to sin), God actively expelled them from the Garden of Eden as a display of divine wrath. It's a both-and and not either/or. Sin is both acting against the way God design us to be and a personal offense against God. In the light of this, a Eastern Orthodox reading of Romans may be interesting to facilitate the discussion. Especially Romans 3-5. John Chrysostom, Anyone? regards Edward Hi,

Personal sin and inherited sin seems all right (not much objection there). It would seem that imputation of sin and imputation of righteousness would become a major ground of difference between Protestantism and Eastern Orthodoxy.

I think that if I am not mistaken, the Protestant reformed teaching on original sin is not that we are actually guilty of Adam’s sin but rather the guilt and sin of Adam is imputed upon the entire human race i.e. counted as effective against the entire human race. (To use a computer science lingo, it’s more of a logical transfer rather than a physical one. :) )

Furthermore, I am unhappy about the avoidance of God’s wrath as a great problem of sin. It is clear that while Adam and Eve hid from God in the garden of Eden (thus suggesting an inward alienation from God due to sin), God actively expelled them from the Garden of Eden as a display of divine wrath. It’s a both-and and not either/or. Sin is both acting against the way God design us to be and a personal offense against God.

In the light of this, a Eastern Orthodox reading of Romans may be interesting to facilitate the discussion. Especially Romans 3-5. John Chrysostom, Anyone?

regards
Edward

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